On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 01:39:15PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Tom Horsley wrote: > >On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:45:10 -0400 > >Bill Davidsen wrote: > > > >>2 - is it as easy as removing firewalld and installing networkmanager with yum? > > > >They have nothing to do with one another as far as I know. > > > >Just copy your /etc/sysconfig/iptables (and ip6tables) from your old > >system and > > > >systemctl disable firewalld > >systemctl mask firewalld > >systemctl enable iptables > >systemctl enable ip6tables > > > >and all the "easy" firewalld crap you have no idea how to use > >and don't want to waste time learning is gone and all the "complicated" > >iptables stuff you already spent years learning and know how to > >use is back :-). > > > Thanks, this is the assurance I was hoping to get, > > I fear that the firewalld interface leans toward making "do it the way the > UI author would" easy, and it never occurred to him/her/them to do anything > like what I'm doing. > > And I can/do use firewalld for clients, and even servers, but for forwarding > rules, and routing efforts, it's not an optimal UI. Have you looked at the firewalld rich language that handles more complex rules than the UI? For a primer: $ man 5 firewalld.richlanguage I for one would find it useful for OPs to give concrete examples of things they feel can't be done, which allows the list members to test assertions. That's also a great benefit of a FOSS community. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org