Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: So first of all, I am thankful that u helped me to understand the problem I was shure I somehow on a interupted dnf process or something I damaged something in fedora, because I did not remember or notice that it did not update grub from the beginning. Maybe I make a switch back to archlinux as another option. I really like much in fedora, but here and there are some edges I would like to use Arch again, like wanted to try gnome-i3, stole the files from AUR zip file and tried to copy em to the propriete places but instead of starting i3 with gnome-session or something like that it just startet normal gnome. So off-topic and I dont want a solution for that, just saying here and there u have some disadvantages and this is maybe just another one, if there are enough of them I will maybe switch. But of course nobody cares if I switch thats ok, no problem with that, dont switch to show you that fedora sucks or something like that, just when I do, I do it because it fits my needs more. > > What you're doing isn't likely to ever be supported, because it's a > non-partition disk. Right now and for the foreseeable future, the > supported layouts will be MBR partitioned on BIOS systems when drives > are < 2TB; and GPT in all other cases. So the Grub people added this feature for nobody, for theoretical persons who dont exist and me? > By the way, the GPT partition scheme is defined in UEFI, so good luck > totally avoiding it (you can avoid it if you don't need to partition > large drives but many people do need to.) lets be real redhat devs are not really happy about uefi too, but they dont see a way around it, because they cant force vendors to sell different hardware, for me one reason to choose fedora over archlinux was the commitment to free software, so hardwaredongels and proprietary root-operating systems where linux run only as process 1 not 0 basicly are not on my most-wanted list. I know bios had the same problems, but at least they had less lines of code and did not do so much. BTW secure boot is a peace of shit, yes its for a few people a good feature, but in reallity how many got such a bootloader rootkit 0.000001% of all people? I never heard of anybody have such thing, it happens maybe if nsa wants to crack some iran atom plants, but a normal user cant even get affected because if they only use linux nobody finds a executable linux file with such stuff on it, but it will make millions of users complicate or they just will not install linux. So its obvious for what this feature is there, what its main goal is. like power management acpi shit sounds a good idea but was proven payed thing from microsoft (Halloween documents) to make linux suck on laptops. But ok I donnt want to flame here or something, just find it stupid that there is a fix for grubby but nobody pulls that patch and integrates it into fc21. I just dont like it, that u cant make yourself a bootable system or fix a broken grub2 because nobody understands anymore whats happen between the 500 partitions with magic block sizes and 20 commands to 50 different boot phases to them. Its so buggy everything you can have a fdsik partionon scheme and gpt scheme in cfdisk at the same time and stuff like that. It all just went from pretty easy to totaly hypercomplicated for no positive point except anti-linux-boot feature. So ok I stop here, its just u write much opinions into your posts too, besides the usefull information, so I had to answer to them. I am kind of ok with the answers to my specific problem. But of course I am not totaly happy with a WONTFIX or ITSAFEATURE thing. Sorry if I sound aggressive or something... :) -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org