As far as I am concerned the full system dvd is really not the way to install F20. I was unable to choose extra packages after choosing a de without wiping my chosen de. After the install, while it did recognize my ASUS N18 wireless usb nic, and load the right driver, it would only load 1 internet page or do only 1 yum install without a reboot. It is good that the networking comes up on boot, however it would be nice, when the system encountered a nfs mount in the fstab, it would mount them before completing the boot process. After installing firefox, which took 2 attempts, it took 4 reboots to install 4 addons. The webserver, while it does start on boot up leaves a lot to be desired for speed of loading even after being woke up. First thing I did was disable selinux and firewalld. I find that they are more pita than they are worth for a server that does not connect to the internet that often. I tested the system with the kde spin and it worked as expected. After screwing around for 2 days, I am convinced more of the adage 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Dave Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Mobilicity -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org