Re: Is this proof that systemd is completely broken?

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Kevin Fenzi writes:

On 12 Jul 2014 22:24:13 +0200
Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> > I'm not following your logic here.
> >
> > Given 2 ways of reacting to a bug:
> > A) complain about it on a users mailing list that few developers
> > follow.
> > B) report a bug on it that developers will see and be able to
> > respond to.
>
>  C) Report a bug and be ignored, told to fsck off to someplace else,
>     and be ridiculed to boot.
>
>  If you won't admit having seen option C on the bug tracker, I have no
> need for your opinions.

Sure, that happens sadly. ;(

However, with a bug report (even if it's closed or not acted on):

* If the package gets taken over by someone else, they can see the
  problem and look to fixing it.

* Other interested parties can see the bug and add their data to it,
  note that it's still a problem, add workarounds, propose patches.

* There's a solid record of the issue/reports. "look at bug 1234" is
  much better than "read 10,000 posts on the users list around
  june/july and try and find the actual bug report in the off topic
  stuff"

* Even just adding yourself to the bug report can indicate that the
  problem is more widespread than the one user.

Anyhow, if you don't want to file or add info to bugs, that's your
decision.

I think that the forest here is being missed for the trees. Previously, I mentioned that I do not want to submit any systemd bug reports. Besides bitching just to make me feel better, I am more interested in analyzing systemd's bugs and developing temporary workarounds, like the one that involves this dummy service, in order to be able to bring up network services sanely.

I think that systemd should not be fixed. I think it should be dumped, and replaced. It's fundamentally broken, even without this latest fallout. So, why would I want to report systemd bugs, and help improve it? I can't think of any reason why I'd want to do that.

And I suspect that, perhaps subconsciously, he feels exactly the same way. And I can't blame him.

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