On Jul 12 12:01, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Corinna Vinschen writes: > [something] > This is certainly a valid workaround for the bug. > > But this wasn't my point. I am looking for validation, based on the data I > posted, that systemd's dependency resolution is broken. > [...] Hmm, ok. Let's try. >>> Problem number one is that all servers specify "After=network.target", when, >>> according to how I interpret this, they should all really specify >>> "After=network-online.target". Yes and no. The problem is not that network.target is always wrong, but it's wrong for services which don't use Linux-specific functionality like rtnetlink or IP_FREEBIND. OpenSSH's sshd, for instance, doesn't utilize these Linux-specials so it clearly should depend on network-online.target. It really doesn't help to blame OpenSSH and ignore the server's capabilities when writing the sshd.service file, IMHO. For services which are capable of handling network interface changes, network.target is fine. >>> [Unit] >>> Description=Wait for network ports to be initialized >>> Before=network.target network-online.target >>> >>> [Service] >>> Type=oneshot >>> ExecStart=/root/bin/wait-for-network >>> >>> [Install] >>> WantedBy=multi-user.target AFAIU Before/After only define the order, not requirements. From the man page systemd.unit: Before=, After= A space-separated list of unit names. Configures ordering dependencies between units. If a unit foo.service contains a setting Before=bar.service and both units are being started, bar.service's start-up is delayed until foo.service is started up. Note especially the last line I quoted. network.target is not necessarily reached only after the SysV Init network service script has run to completion as outlined in http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/ So your service runs as designed, AFAICS. Corinna -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org