Re: why do we use systemd?

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>>> If Mr. Poettering objects to such analysis, he should stop
performing it on those who disagree with him.

Bullshit, he hasn't done anything to you personally. There is no reason
to behave like you're doing here.

So in your view, I have no right to object to his behavior but you have a right to object to my objection?

Something ain't right there.

The difference is that Olav is polite and you are abusive.

Well even Linus T. is not happy with some of the problems with systemd. In this case he is pissed at another systemd dev who exhibits the same attitudes towards 'outsiders':

"Key, I'm f*cking tired of the fact that you don't fix problems in the code *you* write, so that the kernel then has to work around the problems you cause.

Greg - just for your information, I will *not* be merging any code from Kay into the kernel until this constant pattern is fixed.

This has been going on for *years*, and doesn't seem to be getting any better. This is relevant to you because I have seen you talk about the kdbus patches, and this is a heads-up that you need to keep them separate from other work. Let distributions merge it as they need to and maybe we can merge it once it has been proven to be stable by whatever distro that was willing to play games with the developers.

But I'm not willing to merge something where the maintainer is known to not care about bugs and regressions and then forces people in other projects to fix their project. Because I am *not* willing to take patches from people who don't clean up after their problems, and don't admit that it's their problem to fix.

Kay - one more time: you caused the problem, you need to fix it. None of this "I can do whatever I want, others have to clean up after me" crap.

Linus"


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