Rick Stevens wrote:
On 03/21/2014 10:30 AM, Matthew Miller issued this missive:
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:27:02AM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
If you do need to use sendmail, and your ISP is blocking Port 25,
it's not that hard to configure things to use a smarthost. As an
example, I have my own (vanity) domain and use its mail servers,
over Port 587. I also have sendmail configured to use that server
and port, along with the appropriate username/password. If anybody
out there needs to do the same thing, instructions are at
http://www.zeff.us/SMTPAuth.txt
Absolutely. But since you need to configure it before it's useful, it's
arguably actively harmful to have it running by default. That's all. No one
is removing MTAs from the distro.
I agree that an MTA needs to be installed unless you're installing a
"server" (and Fedora really doesn't offer that model anymore).
For quite a while, Fedora had installed an MTA and started it. By
default, it was configured to only listen to localhost on port 25 so
it was more-or-less innocuous. The fact that F19 stopped installing an
MTA by default caught a lot of people off guard.
Sure did. And made it hard to get sendmail working usefully, IIRC both
sendmail.mc and firewall were set to force you to talk only to yourself.
Unlike others, however, I find the new system logging and analysis tools
cumbersome and painful to use. Having a program send an email to me if
it encounters issues is FAR superior to me having to plow through the
logs to see if it ran correctly or not.
In general I like logs, but that's me. That way I can go through and get what I
want with perl, or grep, or sed, or whatever I need. Easier than making emails
recombine for a moving overview.
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Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
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