On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Sam Varshavchik <mrsam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Jan Zelený writes: > >> On 13. 3. 2014 at 13:41:48, Tethys wrote: >> > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Mark Haney >> <mhaney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > So, let me get this straight, DNF doesn't check the (online?) repo >> > > metadata when I call 'sudo dnf update'? That's how I'm reading this. >> > > >> > > If that's true, why the devil not? >> > >> > At a guess, for marketing reasons. People see apt as being quicker >> > than yum, and in a large part that's because it doesn't update >> > metadata where yum does, so people are comparing two different things. >> > I believe that not checking metadata is retarded and I don't think >> > we're right in moving to the same architecture. But it wouldn't >> > surprise me if that's the rationale. >> >> And you are absolutely correct. >> >> The metadata are quite large and downloading them every single time is >> time consuming. There is usually no harm in getting the updates a few days >> later and if you really want to get the very latest updates, you still >> have >> options how to achieve that - either change the time period for how long >> the >> MD should be cached or run dnf clean * before you run the update. Don't do that. > And that's exactly how it's going to end up playing out, I'll bet anything > on this. Most people will simply clear the cache explicitly, before they run > dnf. Or, they'll put it in a crontab to run every night. Perhaps consulting the dnf documentation is a better option than pursuing either of these silly behaviors. man dnf.conf metadata_expire time in seconds The period after which the remote repository is checked for metadata update and in the positive case the local metadata cache is updated. The default corresponds to 48 hours. So your cron job every night could be more simply achieved by setting this to 86400, and your `dnf clean all` before every dnf option could be automatically achieved by setting it to 0. Additionally if the need arises to use intentionally use cache (even if expired), -C can be used with dnf. There's nothing to complain about here because you're given total control over this behavior. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org