-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/18/2014 02:30 PM, g wrote: > > > On 02/18/2014 06:15 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 02/18/2014 10:01 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: > >>> Yet another example of why I should not be installing with >>> LVM, nothing I do gains anything from LVM, it is just another >>> layer of unwanted complexity for this Fedora user. >> >> I'm sure that there are many good uses for it in a production >> environment, but as a home user I've always considered it >> nothing more than an answer in search of a problem. > > i would say that you are close. > > i call lvm a problem looking for systems to screw up. > > i lost 3 ext4 drives when i attempted to install f18 to the system > and even tho i selected for it not to, it installed lvm. > > whoever came up with lvm should be castrated, dip in boiling hot > oil, then put on a 10' rotisserie spit run from mouth to rectum and > turned slowly until there is nothing left but a crispy ash. > > i do not need software dividing up partitions for me because it > thinks it knows best. > > i have done very well setting up systems from first days of red hat > and i have never had a problem of running out of hard drive space. > Amen, brother. I posted a few days ago the futility I have with recovering LVM volumes. I don't really even see the need for it in production systems, at least for non-RAID volumes (preferably RAID5 or better). I have a couple dozen CentOS VMs that were installed with LVM and it drives me batsh*t crazy because I can't find any nagios/Icinga plugin that monitors the drives if they are LVMs. I know, it sounds kinda winy, but it's true. I want to know what my drives are doing. But with LVM it's virtually impossible. (It's so bad, I'm migrating my entire production server farm VMs to EXT4 (maybe BTRFS) since they are sitting on two massive RAID5 SANs and the LVMS just make it impossible to manage if something craps out on boot. - -- Mark Haney Network/Systems Administrator Practichem W: (919) 714-8428 Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug) 3.12.10-300.fc20.x86_64 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTA7g8AAoJEM/YzwEAv6e7EEsH/22WvHi4uLBW5YBsHhuJjO4d DaLIgHuFH4mreqDBNmROipCSDVy/b/6dQ+BnGEWnCm2jI0sRfPRJcGdBMZppnU5i f8BLgZV+qgtOJKbnv7T+4saa4r3IcoagChjFthbXA/PoLhFw9birlnkGsV/oXDja O1Bn11MTvjLET+xOkJFlMdeMVO+WBPzCavWuQb4vL3d7g7EzmDbgmv1TXfwv4xQO ZLBgdSsFzcVTQknqp63Ypn3C8I8VV+zpvTWPZhRcu711lH/mxI8wy5x6xIkWr+db lVxai48HXhfklhggrrzlFme91gBp36vOujTmJ2gNQ0Ao0zCsV5UFScC0haEaEAM= =eCPX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
