On 07.02.2014 19:15, Pete Travis wrote: > On Feb 7, 2014 4:47 AM, "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Tim Evans wrote: >> >>> On 02/06/2014 05:38 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>>> >>>> again, reading RHEL 7-beta docs and here: >>>> >>>> > https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7-Beta/html/System_Administrators_Guide/s1-ssh-configuration.html >>>> >>>> one reads: >>>> >>>> "For SSH to be truly effective, using insecure connection protocols >>>> should be prohibited. Otherwise, a user's password may be protected >>>> using SSH for one session, only to be captured later while logging in >>>> using Telnet. Some services to disable include telnet, rsh, rlogin, >>>> and vsftpd." >>>> >>>> never having used sftp before, i'm confused ... isn't sftp simply a >>>> secure ftp client? and if so, why would one want to disable vsftpd? i >>>> would still need an ftp server, would i not? can someone clarify what >>>> that passage is saying? thanks. >>> >>> Actually 'sftp' is a special interface to ssh that looks and acts >>> like ftp, but doesn't use the ftp protocol. You do not need to >>> maintain a vsftpd server to support folks using sftp. >> >> yes, i realize that now ... having never used sftp before and based >> on something i clearly misread, i had assumed sftp was simply a more >> secure ftp client to talk to an *existing* ftp server; i know better >> now. >> >> and as for the admonition to *not* read RHEL 7 docs, given that RHEL >> 7 will allegedly be based on fedora 19 (more precisely, what appears >> to be a mix of fedora 18, 19, and 20), i would think that the current >> RHEL 7 beta docs online should at least be moderately relevant with >> respect to fedora. >> >> rday >> > > This is correct. In fact, many RH writers also volunteer their time in > Fedora Docs, and the maintainers of the System Administrators Guide are > among the most active Fedora writers. The content is CC-BY-SA both ways, > and often freely shared. > > Just like with software, your testing and feedback is valuable and > appreciated. There are bugzilla components for both RHEL and Fedora > documentation. Any report of inaccuracies or requests for > clarification/enhancement are welcome, though I do try to watch a few lists > for such things too :) Excusez-moi, this is Community support for *Fedora* users list, *not* an "Rhel7-peap" list. So *this* documentation is relevant - complete or not, http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/index.html And the documentation was not a problem. :) It should be read with understanding! poma -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org