poma wrote: >> In my view NM is ludicrously over-complicated, >> and steadily getting more complicated >> as more and more "features" are added. > > Au contraire. > 'kde-plasma-nm' is the spitting image of both 'network-manager-applet' & > 'nm-connection-editor', quite straightforward and simple tools to use. > With proper MBB support. How exactly does that contradict the above statement, the only bit of my posting you retained? What I actually said was: --------------------------- What has happened to Network Management Settings in recent versions of NM? Right clicking on the NM icon (in Fedora-20/KDE) brings up an unintelligible (to me) window with 4 arrows whose function I do not understand. --------------------------- Assuming the above is the straightforward and simple tool you refer to, what exactly is the function of the 4 arrows, pointing N,S,E,W? --------------------------- Also NM is bringing up small "activation/deactivation" windows that seem to persist indefinitely unless manually closed. --------------------------- That was my other complaint. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org