On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:52:12PM +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:49:23AM +0000, Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 14:17:17 +0100 > > Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I know I can always look in the logs, but I would probably miss > > > something if I have to do this manually for every daemon that is > > > running. It is much simpler to monitor this through system mail. > > > > > > Hence, I would like to know what happens if there is no MTA > > > installed; do I still get system mail notifying me of cron jobs, > > > denied hosts, etc? > > > > MTA is not necessary on a "single" box. > > > > Can your mua read system mail? > > in claws-mail I added an account for system-mail. > > so cron, logwatch journalctl etc. come to my inbox\subfolders. > > > > You should still have the old "mail (mailx)" installed rpm -q mailx > > I use mutt, so don't have problems reading system mail. > > Thank you for confirming, I have removed sendmail now. This doesn't work. I have a nightly cron job (run as root) I'm trying to debug so I have it output debug information always. I also have an alias for root mail to me (local user) in /etc/aliases. With sendmail, this information was mailed to me. Logs tell me last 3 days the job ran, however I did not receive any of the mails. I tested interactively by trying to send mail to root using the mail program; it fails like this: # mail root Subject: Testing system mail 2 Hi, Can you see me? Cheers, EOT /usr/sbin/sendmail: No such file or directory "/root/dead.letter" 13/241 . . . message not sent. After I install sendmail again and start the daemon with systemctl, the above command succeeds and I (regular local user) get the test mail. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org