On Dec 17, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > not sure what list would be appropriate for this but i'll start here. > currently running RHEL 6.5 on a 64-bit laptop, and installed a new > fedora 20 VM using the Virtual Machine Manager -- seemed to work fine, > f20 came up, looks good, but now i want to shut it down, so from the > f20 console, i selected "Virtual Machine" -> "Shut Down" -> "Shut Down", > whereupon it *looks* like the VM shuts down, but the VMM window shows That command should be the same as 'virsh shutdown <vmname>'. I'm not sure how the message gets to the VM to shut it down cleanly but I'm guessing some sort of message gets to systemd in the VM. How long have you waited for it to shutdown? You might be running into this bug: slow shutdown unit user@0.service entered failed state https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023820 I'm running into that delayed reboot/shutdown bug a lot. Not every time, but maybe 1/3 of the time? It happens on baremetal and in VMs. New F20 installs, and updated ones. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org