Tim: >> And if logs are in a format that you cannot read, you cannot safely >> submit them to an outside server. You don't know what they contain. >> Logon credentials, confidential data that you're working on, etc. Patrick Lists: > IIRC that's the reason why journald supports encryption. I don't > recall the link but there's a blog post somewhere (on redhat.com?) > where the reasons for moving to journald were outlined. Might be worth > a search if you want to know more. If my logs might contain confidential data, there's no way I'm submitting them to something else to assess (e.g. bug reports). Encrypting isn't the issue, it's (me) being unable to tell what's in them, nor edit the confidential stuff out of it beforehand. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org