On 10/23/2013 2:07 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/22/2013 10:21 PM, David wrote: >> Retired and on the couch does not equate with 'need my machine'. *If >> you* have enough time to play games for days, or weeks, help yourself. >> > > It also helps, of course, that I also have a laptop running Fedora and I > always upgrade it first. My desktop only gets upgraded after I'm sure > that the laptop's working properly. > >> Me? I take the 'short path' and solve the problem. Your choice. > > Naturally. I wouldn't even consider trying that on a production > machine, or even a workstation in a Linux shop. That's why I made a > point of stating that I'm retired and have the time, so that nobody > would think I was suggesting that trying to recover from a failed > upgrade is the right move for anybody else. I don't recall if the OP, the person with the problem, said that this was one-of-two machines. It did not read like that. As for a 'learning experience? Perhaps. BUT IMHO Joe/Jane User wants a machine that works not one that needs fixing. Like your car. Or household appliances. Tools. Etc. David -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org