I have F19 on a T30 Thinkpad, installed by fedup from F18 (which ran fine), and running xfce4 with some software from Gnome and KDE (such as gnome-terminal) also installed. The display has elephantiasis, as if it were on a screen big enough to cover the room wall. It is a deep reddish brown (on black), and hard to see despite the absurd magnification. It's also way slow, at least when I use its own keyboard and mouse. I have my desktop PC connected to it over ssh -Y; it seems to respond at a normal rate here. (But, despite the -Y, I can't get to any display other than a terminal, on the PC any more than on the laptop. Or, maybe, I just don't know how.) . Maybe the following, from the PC, will tell someone something : [root@T30 ~]# startx xauth: file /root/.serverauth.7562 does not exist X.Org X Server 1.14.3 Release Date: 2013-09-12 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: 3.10.9-200.fc19.x86_64 Current Operating System: Linux T30.localdomain 3.11.1-200.fc19.i686.PAE #1 SMP Sat Sep 14 15:20:42 UTC 2013 i686 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-0- rescue-1d7352e603b24d77a5b516b0204a434a root=/dev/mapper/vg_t30-lv_root ro rd.md=0 rd.dm=0 KEYTABLE=us SYSFONT=True rd.lvm.lv=vg_t30/lv_swap rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd.lvm.lv=vg_t30/lv_root rhgb quiet Build Date: 16 September 2013 12:43:28AM Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.14.3-1.fc19 Current version of pixman: 0.30.0 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.1.log", Time: Sun Oct 13 13:32:18 2013 (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d" (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" setversion 1.4 failed Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension Initializing built-in extension SHAPE Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension Initializing built-in extension XTEST Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS Initializing built-in extension SYNC Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA Initializing built-in extension XFIXES Initializing built-in extension RENDER Initializing built-in extension RANDR Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER Initializing built-in extension RECORD Initializing built-in extension DPMS Initializing built-in extension X-Resource Initializing built-in extension XVideo Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation Initializing built-in extension SELinux Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI Initializing built-in extension DRI2 Loading extension GLX (EE) Fatal server error: (EE) xf86OpenConsole: VT_ACTIVATE failed: No such device or address (EE) (EE) Please consult the Fedora Project support at http://wiki.x.org for help. (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.1.log" for additional information. (EE) (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. ^Cxinit: giving up xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused xinit: unexpected signal 2 [root@T30 ~]# I would like at least to establish whether the trouble is in F19, in me, or in my hardware. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org