I'm running F19 on a T30 thinkpad, upgraded iirc by means of fedup from F18 (which ran fine). Boot messages seem fairly normal (apart from being faint and red- shifted), until they reach sendmail. I get "Started ....Agent" followed (on the same line, not a new line) by "Starting ....Client ..." I can ssh in from another machine on my LAN. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org