On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 20:15 -0500, Javier Perez wrote: > I think there are some conceptual issues that you should understand > and I do not feel you are clear on them yet. (Or maybe I am the one > not clear) > > First of all, there is no "last 50Gb" on a LLV scheme. When you create > and use LLV, you are surrendering disk management to the LLV manager > in exchange of the flexibility it provides handling the disk. Whatever > data you send to the LLV volume, the manager will place where it feels > most convenient. > Second, if you want a 50G "partition" you need to create a second > volume group to hold those backups, separate from the main volume. > Again, there is no guarantee of where in the disk this data would > reside unless you first created a 50GB partition at the end of the > drive, and created a volume in there with vgcreate and added it to the > physical volume, but geese, that sounds like all the work we were > originally trying to avoid :-) > Finally, are you taking into consideration that whatever managed to > trash your filesystem under LLV will most likely trash your backups if > they are under the same LLV structure? > > My 2 cents > > On Aug 19, 2013 4:03 PM, "Alasdair G Kergon" <agk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:59:46PM +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz > wrote: > > pvscan, pvscreate, vgscan, vgcreate, lvscan, lvcreate > > These days, vgcreate followed by lvcreate is sufficient. > > - vgcreate automatically performs pvcreate if it needs to > - scans shouldn't normally be needed > > Alasdair > > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Fedora Code of Conduct: > http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org I fully admit that I don't understand most of lvm and have considered it a nuisance for my home system. Ten years ago I spent a great deal of time learning about partitioning and became quite familiar with parted and friends. Now at seventy years of age I carefully pick my study projects. LVM was not on the list. It turns out I didn't need lvm lessons. I booted onto my old disk and Fedora 16, fired up gparted, found that this time anaconda had not arbitrarily installed LVM; from parted I added my back up partition with out a hitch. I apologize for disturbing you guys with a non-problem. -- Regards William Case, Fedora 19, Gnome 3.8.4, Evo 3.8.5, Emacs 24x. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org