Hi, sorry for breaking the thread. I was not subscribed up to now and did not yet find an archive that exposes message ids. -------------------------------------------------------------- It is not that bad with Blu-ray. At least with the backends. (I am the developer of libburn and use BD-R and BD-RE media daily.) But wodim (or "cdrecord") out of cdrkit should really be used only for CD. The slowliness of BD media comes from their Defect Management which checkreads the written blocks while they are still present in the drive's buffer. In case of poor read quality the blocks get written again or redirected to the Spare Area where the data get stored in replacement blocks. This checkreading reduces write speed to at most half of the nominal speed of drive and BD medium. BD-R do Defect Management by default if they are formatted. BD-RE can only be used formatted and do Defect Management by default. -------------------------------------------------------------- Original cdrecord out of cdrtools was already discussed in the this thread. To my knowledge it is fast with BD-R, because it does not format them. It is not fast with BD-RE, because it uses SCSI command WRITE(10) which does not allow to override the slow Defect Management. -------------------------------------------------------------- growisofs out of dvd+rw-tools has a little bug with BD-R. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858029 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868527 It is supposed to be fixed in dvd+rw-tools-7.1-13.fc19 The tiny patch is shown in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=713016 Workaround is to explicitely format the BD-R before use by dvd+rw-format /dev/sr0 or to use option -use-the-force-luke=spare:none when giving an unformatted BD-R to growisofs. growisofs formats BD-R by default and then uses slow Defect Management. This can be prevented by option -use-the-force-luke=spare:none growisofs has no means to prevent Defect Management on BD-RE media. -------------------------------------------------------------- My own programs, libburn based cdrskin and xorriso, do not format BD-R by default. So they are as fast as with cdrecord. Other than with cdrecord it is possible to format BD-R on request cdrskin -v dev=/dev/sr0 blank=format_if_needed xorriso -outdev /dev/sr0 -format as_needed which makes them capable of slow Defect Management. Other than growisofs and cdrecord, cdrskin and xorriso offer the opportunity to disable Defect Management on formatted BD-R and on BD-RE cdrskin stream_recording=on ...cdrecord-like-burn-options... xorriso -stream_recording on ...xorriso-burn-commands... This is especially helpful with 2x BD-RE, which elsewise need an awfully long time to write their capacity of 22.5 GiB. Have a nice day :) Thomas -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org