On F19 with Mate desktop, sometimes after login 8 or 9 or even 10 copies of Caja (Mate File Manger) are started up. Most of the time not, but perhaps once every day or two this will happen. the rest of the time it's completely normal. I found these /var/log/messages entries at around the right time, but I'm not certain whether they are from login or the boot a small bit earlier: Jul 19 19:23:56 aspirebox dbus-daemon[556]: dbus[556]: [system] Rejected send me ssage, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=1000 pid=1410 co mm="caja -n ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.12" (uid=0 pid=638 comm="/us r/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ") Jul 19 19:23:56 aspirebox dbus[556]: [system] Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.52" (uid=1000 pid=1410 comm="caja -n ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.12" (uid=0 pid=638 comm="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ") Anybody got any clues? thanks! Fred -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything offered to me as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor will I forward chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus warnings to large numbers of others. This is my contribution to the survival of the online community. --Roger Ebert, December, 1996 ----------------------------- The Boulder Pledge ----------------------------- -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org