Hi Timothy, On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:35:46PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/17/13 22:27, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > >> Heck, you could always make your sudo password less and you could always > >> assign the frequently used commands aliases. > > I guess my question should have been: > > Will it cause any problems if I change the permissions on these files? > > Is there any program that won't work if you do this, > > as is true eg of some .ssh and pki files? > > > > But why bother? You can't be assured that some update or process won't go about changing them back on you. Then, you'll be scratching your head again. > > Does the cron job to roll log files reset things? Don't know...and I don't want to care. > > I prefer solutions that don't require changing things over which you don't or may not have absolute control. Your permission changes will be overwritten the moment a daemon sends a message to syslog. AFAIU, the reason the logs are owned by root is because it is written by syslog (which runs as root). The motivation I think is, the logs should remain untampered if your system is compromised. Say a regular user is compromised, the logs are still intact and you can probably investigate what went wrong since you still trust the logs. Of course this reasoning becomes moot the moment your root account is compromised. Security and convenience has a very small overlap, finding that balance is a hard problem. :) Hope this helps, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org