RE: Disabling ipv6

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-----Original Message-----
From: users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fernando Lozano
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:28 PM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Cc: Tim
Subject: Re: Disabling ipv6

Hi,

> On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 10:58 +0200, J.Witvliet@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> Once in a while I see people suggesting the disabling of IPv6 to cope
>> with some issue.
>>  
>> My I _kindly_ ask not to do that anymore?
>> Even though such trick might take away the symptoms for you and me, it
>> is a technical overkill and only tackles the symptoms.
> In my case, I have a completely IPv4 network, and a complete
> impossibility to do IPv6 over the internet (I'd need an IP6 to 4 proxy
> *OUTSIDE* of my ISP).  So...
>
>
Somtimes we techinicians give advice based on an ideal world. :-) But on
the real world disabling IPv6 everywhere is the *right* thing to do for
many companies. if you don't have the need, don't have the knowledge and
your hardware/software doesn't support it well, IPv6 is not only
overhead with no added value but also may present a significant security
risk. Just like you should disable any system service (specially network
services) that you don't need to reduce a hacker attack surface on your
network and servers.

-----Original Message-----

Hi Fernando,

I completely agree that one should minimize any attack surface, no doubt about that!
And if you (!) don't want to use v6, fine.

But when you write "But on the real world disabling IPv6 everywhere is the right thing to do" 
I strongly disagree. There might okay for you, but at least in the apnic/ripe area the RIR's has run out, and providers can only obtain _once_ a final block of addresses. And, as I said, signals start to come from people ONLY getting an V6 address from their providers.
But even in the ARIN-area (years to go from depletion), USA-administration indicates that any peers/suppliers must be able to handle V6.

Hence my plea just to think twice before advising to disable v6 altogether.
In certain circumstances it might alleviate some symptoms, but the cure should be somewhere else, not?


Hw


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