Sorry for top posting this. My bb won't allow bottom posting. My $0.02 on this topic. My nfs server is running fc5. Very outdated but I see no reason to upgrade it as there are 3 firewalls between it and the Net. It is doing what I want it to do. Serve files. My other machines are all F17. Only one of them is connected to the net. They do specialized tasks. If your OS is doing what you want, you have had no crack attempts, and is working properly, why upgrade your OS? Dave Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Mobilicity -----Original Message----- From: Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sender: users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 00:52:10 To: <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, François Patte sent: > But this requires to have two computers: while you install one, you > follow the instructions on the other. I've, long since, come to realise that it's nearly impossible to manage with just one computer. Your instructions are on-file/on-line, and your one source for more information is on-line. Most of the time you cannot use a badly broken computer system to find out how to fix it up, you need another (either for the instructions, or to carry out the fixes). And much of the time, you can't use a computer while it's OS is being installed to do any research or reading, at the same time. It would seem that *only* if things go without error can you manage with just one computer. Or, at least, have two hard drives, so you can swap to a spare to try out an install on, keeping your working one safely unplugged while you experiment. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.8-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Jun 27 19:19:57 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org