On Saturday, July 6, 2013, 12:08:44 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > walksalot wrote >> Booting the 64-bit F19 live DVD on my system results in many minutes of a >> rattling optical drive, and then a uniform grey screen with a row of about >> 16 PC block graphics characters in the upper left. The system is, umm, >> utterly non-responsive at this point. Have to power cycle. >> >> My system is a fairly normal Core 2 Duo. It's getting a bit old, but runs >> F17 and F18 fine. I survived the F18 new installer debacle OK, but this >> is a bit rough. Anybody seen this? > Same thing happens with the full x86_64 install DVD. Both images match > their respective checksums and both are mountable under F17. > Now, I've been a Unix admin since the SunOS 2.x days. I was peripherally > involved in the porting of Minix to 32-bit mode before Linux ever existed. > I've been running Linux since around the 0.9.5 kernel. With all that > experience, I know it's possible that I'm doing something stupid. I just > don't see it. > Does anybody have a clue as to what might be going on? > Paul Allen Paul, It looks like the llvm softpipe 3D emulation is being run where in previous releases a real hardward-based driver was being used. The F19 llvmpipe seems to having severe issues. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=946964 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=955779 for details. For me, it was good enough for Live Gnome 3, but died horribly trying to set up the initial user id or log on after an actual install. My Dell D810 (1920x1200, Radion X600) was fully functional with Gnome 3 using R300g at F17 GA... then forced to fallback mode (gone in F19) for a few months while regressions broke R300g 3D, and later back to full support with later (and current F17) service. I'd opened https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869054 to track this. F18 never worked and F19 versions also seems broken. Apparently things got bad enough that the R300g was blacklisted, and the software 3D emulation (llvmpipe) used instead. That driver apparently has in developed issues of its own. Others using the Radeon cards supported by R300g are (X1100, X1200) have reported experiencing the same issues with F19. F19 XFCE works with native support but I found it a tad too simplistic. I tried installing KDE, but the F19 R300g 3D issues apparently are bad enough that part way through the KDE desktop started displaying vertical stripes and repeated miniature destops and simply died. F19 Make installed fine, and works well. There apparently is one developer (Merek - sp?) who is doing some R300g and R600g development on older cards. Once I get some spare time (jwork and real life are a tad busy this month), I intend to contact him and see what I can do to help the process of fixing R300g along. Al -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
