On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 18:57:42 +0000, Beartooth wrote: [....] > Is this normal?? Have I screwed up royally somehow? I went > through the directions at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading (or so > I thought). However, rpm -q yum says : > > [btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ rpm -q yum yum-3.4.3-31.fc17.noarch [btth@Hbsk2 ~]$ > > *Note 1* : my #3 PC, which has been running F18 for a couple days > longer, does get F18 updates, and does reply to rpm -q yum with F18. *Note 2* Please bear in mind that I am *not* trying to upgrade these F17 PCs to F18 *with yum*. If I can, I'd like to get them clean enough to upgrade with Fedup; after all, that did succeed on my first try (with PC #3). But if I can get my favorite files into a safe harbor, I'm resigned to do fresh installs somehow. It has now been a week, or nearly; and at this point I have news both good and bad. The bad, if you call it news, is that my #1 PC (which I have not mentioned in this thread before) has been having similar troubles. The good is that I have managed, I don't know how, to regain access of sorts to both #1 AND #2. *And* I have an external USB hard drive with space enough to hold what I want to salvage. The #2 PC is running on a live DVD, and I can't seem to get it to access the files on the hard drive, so that I can copy them to the external one. The #1 PC managed to boot into FC17, or so it says; I put a live medium into it, but it took long enough at a Grub prompt to let me pick an entry other than the default. (I don't know whether that medium is still doing anything or not.) So in theory, iiuc, I should be able to copy /home from each of the problem PCs onto the external drive, do a fresh install on each, and copy its old files back onto it afterward. Does anyone have a favorite how-to-do-it page, comprehensible to a subtechnoid, that will guide me through? My sticking point, oddly enough perhaps, seems to be copying the files off the PCs, especially off #2. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org