On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:40:19 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: [....] > The only thing worse than a poorly asked question is a cryptic answer. OK, first off, I'm the OP. I suppose I should be flattered at being addressed as if I were an Alpha Plus Technoid; but I'm not one. I'm just an old twice-retired bookworm, running Fedora because there's more and better help online for it than for anything else I've tried (most of the well-known distros), and because I began back in '98 with RedHat. I can't imagine anything I have being of interest to an intruder. All the replies in this thread so far have been way over my head. The one thing I gather some of you want is the error message from SEL, verbatim. I don't have it; I presume it's in some log somewhere, but I have no idea how to find that log. As for the rest of the comments, however well-meant, I can't tell what is wanted; but I'll try to go find it if someone can make it clear to me. My guess is that Arora had well over a hundred, but well under two hundred, tabs open when it crashed. SEL then offered me two choices, both having something to do with Arora trying to access memory somewhere that SEL thought it had no business accessing. A point that may or may not be relevant is that the machine I was using had been running slow, with some of the probably busiest apps (Pan, several browsers, and Alpine) seeming especially slow. Pan and Firefox (but iirc not Arora) had actually crashed a time or two, in one of two ways. Sometimes they just went away, but I could restart them (and, with one or two of the browsers, eliminate some of the open tabs before full restoration). Sometimes they produced what I've called, in another recent thread here, the Diagonal Screen of Death (DSoD). -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org