Nik I'm sorry if my comments sound negative but I can't see how many of the things you suggest would give any benefits. I would appreciate it if you could explain better for me. On Friday 12 April 2013 00:04:34 Nik Trevallyn-Jones wrote: > Hi Gary, > > Just a few thoughts from my own experiences. > > I also support a network of WinXP machines (40+, so fewer than yours). > I use FOG ( http://www.fogproject.org/ ) to automate tasks and re-image > the machines, and everything runs quite smoothly. > I'm missing the point of FOG. How does it help what is basically a static WinXP estate, and how does it ease licensing as stated by the FOG web site? > Some time ago, I tested a Fedora install with VMware Workstation running > our WinXP image for the Windows-only apps (CAD, Sketchp), and it worked > really well; > - the only problem was strong resistance from stubborn users. How does running Windows apps over VMWare over Linux give any benefits? Surely you still need WinXP but have added two extra layers? > > You can also run IE on Linux machines under Wine, but I understand that > only 6, 7, and 8 are supported that way (however, it is always possible > to address that on your own machine, so my experience is that you > *could* get IE9 working as well) I have looked at Wine before but not for a very long time. Are there idiots guides for Wine to help me have another go? Where do we stand with licensing for IE when not on a Windows platform? How solid is it, especially on sites developed using .NET? > Alternatively you could run a VM which contains Windows and IE. See the > following link for more details, including a link for MS-provided VMs: > http://www.rdeeson.com/weblog/126/how-to-run-internet-explorer-7-8-and-9-in >-linux-with-or-without-wine.html Again, I don't see the benefits of running Windows inside a VM. However, I will look at Wine and also the link above. > > If you are happy with Fedora, you can install it and leave it for 12-18 > months, and then update when you've found a stable version of the latest > Fedora release. Since you don't want to update all the time (eg every 15 > minutes), the fact that the repos of your installed version will > disappear isn't really a major problem. That is a valid point. I still have Fedora servers running 7, 9, 11 and 13 and they are still all fit for purpose. One of my internal web servers has 898 days uptime. How many Windows based boxes can claim that? [snip] > My experience with Macs is mixed: many Mac users love them; they are not > too difficult to support; and while the early versions of Safari and > Mail were useless, we just installed Firefox and Thunderbird, and all > was good. > > I can't say the same for iPhones. Trying to bend our infrastructure to > work the way iPhones demand is way too much effort. Android phones are > much easier - and that is despite having to install 5 or 6 apps to get > support for all the protocols eg, WebDav, ICS, etc. I agree with you completely. I am very impressed with the Apple support I get if I have problems on the MacBooks but I hate having to try to bend my networks around the iphones. Blackberry still win hands down when it comes to handling business standard email services. I just wish they'd improve the UI Unfortunately, the managers here will not even consider android. Having said that, I don't know of a business grade email solution for android phones either (but haven't really looked). Android's dependancy on cloud / internet connectivity is a serious limitation in business in my opinion. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
