Subject: Re: Fedora 18 existing /usr partition -- need to merge into rootfs?

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Bob, thanks, that should do the trick.

(appear to be competing schools of thought here, some strongly for, some strongly against).

I'll try both ;-)
 
If you really want to keep a separate /usr (I do, mounted read-only and
located on an SSD) you just need to arrange to have /usr mounted by dracut
early in the boot sequence. It's not hard:

1. Copy the /usr line from your /etc/fstab into a (probably new) file
   /etc/fstab.sys .

2. Edit the file /etc/dracut.conf and change the line
        #add_dracutmodules+=""
   to read
        add_dracutmodules+="fstab-sys"

3. IMPORTANT: In /etc/fstab, disable the automatic fsck for /usr by
   putting a zero in field 6.

4. Run dracut to remake the initramfs in /boot.

That's it.  Now your /usr gets mounted early in the boot sequence.
It is available when needed, and you can ignore the warning from systemd.
You will have to make your own arrangement for fsck on your /usr.  If
you allowed the automatic fsck to run, it would be guaranteed to fail
since the filesystem is mounted.  (The special handling for the root
filesystem is hard-coded into fsck and would not apply to a pre-mounted
/usr.)

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   1. Re: undo rm -rf * (Patrick O'Callaghan)
   2. Re: How do you keep contacts in Fedora/KDE? (Patrick O'Callaghan)
   3. Re: How do you keep contacts in Fedora/KDE? (Steven Stern)
   4. Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ? (poma)
   5. Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ? (Reindl Harald)
   6. Re: Fedora 18 existing /usr partition -- need to merge into
      rootfs? (Robert Nichols)
   7. Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ? (poma)
   8. Re: f18... (poma)
   9. Re: f18... (Marc Blanc)
  10. Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ? (Jim)
  11. Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ? (Bill Davidsen)
  12. Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ? (Reindl Harald)
  13. Re: f18... (Marc Blanc)
  14. Re: f18... (Suvayu Ali)
  15. Re: Fedora 18 won't print in Landscape mode. (Jim)
  16. Re: f18... (Patrick O'Callaghan)
  17. Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ? (Bill Davidsen)


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:33:52 -0430
Subject: Re: undo rm -rf *
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 15:40 +1100, Celik wrote:
> In this thread, it has been suggested to do daily backups. But it
> wasn't
> clear, should the daily backups be for the whole system or only the
> current
> project we are working on?

Only you can answer that. Ask yourself what you can afford to lose.

> An issue that has been bothering me and caused me to be reluctant in
> making
> regular backups is - a complete backup is costly. It takes 4-5 hours
> minimum, plus causing storage issues, the compressed home directory is
> too
> large.

Hardly surprising if you're doing it with tar, which is making a
complete copy every time. That's the wrong approach. As I mentioned
earlier, rsnapshot, obnam and others can do incremental backups which
take up little space. They are also better run as cron jobs, i.e.
automatically. I run mine when my system is quiescent (4am every day)
but again that's your call.

And it goes without saying that the backup should be to another machine,
e.g. using rsync or a net-mounted filesystem.

Note that these are recommendations for a personal system that you can't
afford to lose. For larger systems you might want to look at solutions
such as Amanda or Bacula (not that these won't work on a personal system
as well, they just need a bit more setting up).

poc




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:35:52 -0430
Subject: Re: How do you keep contacts in Fedora/KDE?
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 14:59 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> As a matter of interest, how do those of you running Fedora/KDE
> keep your contacts?
> I have a rather messy combination of Google contacts,
> KAddressBook and LDAP,
> but would like to organise something simpler.
> I suspect the simplest solution might be to go over entirely
> to Google contacts, as I want to keep my contacts in sync
> with my Android phone.
>
> But what do people running Fedora/KDE usually do?

Speaking only for myself, I just keep everything in Google Contacts (I
also have an Android phone).

Cue flame-war about evil intentions of Google, etc. ...

poc




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From: Steven Stern <subscribed-lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 09:33:59 -0500
Subject: Re: How do you keep contacts in Fedora/KDE?
On 04/01/2013 09:05 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 14:59 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>> As a matter of interest, how do those of you running Fedora/KDE
>> keep your contacts?
>> I have a rather messy combination of Google contacts,
>> KAddressBook and LDAP,
>> but would like to organise something simpler.
>> I suspect the simplest solution might be to go over entirely
>> to Google contacts, as I want to keep my contacts in sync
>> with my Android phone.
>>
>> But what do people running Fedora/KDE usually do?
>
> Speaking only for myself, I just keep everything in Google Contacts (I
> also have an Android phone).
>
> Cue flame-war about evil intentions of Google, etc. ...
>
> poc
>

I, too, keep all my contacts in Google Contacts. They sync to
Thunderbird via the Google Contacts extension, sync to my iPhone, iPad,
and Mac.

--
-- Steve



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From: poma <pomidorabelisima@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:02:24 +0200
Subject: Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ?
On 01.04.2013 14:03, Temlakos wrote:
...
>
> No, but you have MP2 and MP3 sound-only files and MP4 videos. MP4 seems
> to be the download-of-choice from youtube.com, for example.

- MPEG-1(2) Audio Layer II aka "MP2"
- MPEG-1(2) Audio Layer III aka "MP3"
- MPEG-4 Part 3 aka "MPEG-4 Audio"
- MPEG-4 Part 14 aka "MP4" is a multimedia container
  for certain types of video, audio and subtitle tracks,
  same as MKV(матрёшка) itself.

poma




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From: Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 17:10:59 +0200
Subject: Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ?


Am 01.04.2013 17:02, schrieb poma:
> On 01.04.2013 14:03, Temlakos wrote:
> ...
>>
>> No, but you have MP2 and MP3 sound-only files and MP4 videos. MP4 seems
>> to be the download-of-choice from youtube.com, for example.
>
> - MPEG-1(2) Audio Layer II aka "MP2"
> - MPEG-1(2) Audio Layer III aka "MP3"
> - MPEG-4 Part 3 aka "MPEG-4 Audio"
> - MPEG-4 Part 14 aka "MP4" is a multimedia container
>   for certain types of video, audio and subtitle tracks,
>   same as MKV(матрёшка) itself

Youtube and anything which provides videos for web is using
H.264/MPEG-4 Part 10 / AVC, to be specific H264 BASELINE PROFILE
and nothing else in context of "MP4" because THIS is the spec
which is supported by Smartphones, Tablets, mobile browsers up to
Firefox on Android in recent releases and most hardware-devices
including hardware acceleration

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC




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From: Robert Nichols <rnicholsNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 10:26:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Fedora 18 existing /usr partition -- need to merge into rootfs?
On 04/01/2013 07:47 AM, Noah Cutler wrote:
Hey all.

I'm confused over the whole separate /usr partition is broken thing:
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken

 From an email in current fedora-user thread we have:
"That should not be necessary.  And would break a very normal system
setup of using separate drives, *even more so than the blasted can't have
a separate /usr thing that happened recently*."

During Fedora 18 fresh install with custom partitioning chosen, Anaconda
autocompletes mount points so I went with /boot, /, /user, /var, and /home
partitions.

Everything appears to work swimmingly here after 1 month of use -- separate /usr
partition does not appear to be broken...anymore??

Just trying to future proof my setup; if it's better to merge /usr into rootfs,
so be it, better to do it early days with the new system.

Otherwise, if someone can chime in here with some sage partitioning advice as to
how to proceed moving forward with Fedora, that would be much appreciated.

If you really want to keep a separate /usr (I do, mounted read-only and
located on an SSD) you just need to arrange to have /usr mounted by dracut
early in the boot sequence. It's not hard:

1. Copy the /usr line from your /etc/fstab into a (probably new) file
   /etc/fstab.sys .

2. Edit the file /etc/dracut.conf and change the line
        #add_dracutmodules+=""
   to read
        add_dracutmodules+="fstab-sys"

3. IMPORTANT: In /etc/fstab, disable the automatic fsck for /usr by
   putting a zero in field 6.

4. Run dracut to remake the initramfs in /boot.

That's it.  Now your /usr gets mounted early in the boot sequence.
It is available when needed, and you can ignore the warning from systemd.
You will have to make your own arrangement for fsck on your /usr.  If
you allowed the automatic fsck to run, it would be guaranteed to fail
since the filesystem is mounted.  (The special handling for the root
filesystem is hard-coded into fsck and would not apply to a pre-mounted
/usr.)

--
Bob Nichols     "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address.
                Do NOT delete it.




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: poma <pomidorabelisima@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:19:05 +0200
Subject: Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ?
On 01.04.2013 17:10, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 01.04.2013 17:02, schrieb poma:
>> On 01.04.2013 14:03, Temlakos wrote:
>> ...
>>>
>>> No, but you have MP2 and MP3 sound-only files and MP4 videos. MP4 seems
>>> to be the download-of-choice from youtube.com, for example.
>>
>> - MPEG-1(2) Audio Layer II aka "MP2"
>> - MPEG-1(2) Audio Layer III aka "MP3"
>> - MPEG-4 Part 3 aka "MPEG-4 Audio"
>> - MPEG-4 Part 14 aka "MP4" is a multimedia container
>>   for certain types of video, audio and subtitle tracks,
>>   same as MKV(матрёшка) itself
>
> Youtube and anything which provides videos for web is using
> H.264/MPEG-4 Part 10 / AVC, to be specific H264 BASELINE PROFILE
> and nothing else in context of "MP4" because THIS is the spec
> which is supported by Smartphones, Tablets, mobile browsers up to
> Firefox on Android in recent releases and most hardware-devices
> including hardware acceleration
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
>

Anyhow, OP's question remains unclear.

poma






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From: poma <pomidorabelisima@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:26:06 +0200
Subject: Re: f18...
On 01.04.2013 09:53, Marc Blanc wrote:
> Le Mon, 1 Apr 2013 09:24:06 +0200,
> Marc Blanc <arsace@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>
>
>> Only mail works.
>
> and fortunately yum !
>

ThunderBrowse :)
http://thunderbrowse.com/

poma





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From: Marc Blanc <arsace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 18:33:10 +0200
Subject: Re: f18...
Le Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:33:50 +0200,
Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :


>Have you tried starting your browsers in safe-mode and see if some
>add-on is to blame?  Do you have a proxy setup?  Maybe that is behaving
>badly?  Do text mode browsers w3m, lynx, and elinks work?
>
Yes, nothing works for download (elinks and lynx), and now yum works badly !

>You do not provide much information about what you tried and how did it
>fail.  Some more details should help others on the list diagnose the
>problem.
>

I don't have any error messages. I can't to download nothing, only sometimes
with yum. Actually i have reinstalled f17, same problem. To upgrade to f18
yum stop at midterm like :

kde-filesystem-4-42.fc17.x86_6 FAILED Timeout on
http://ftp.klid.dk/ftp/fedora/linux/updates/17/x86_64/kde-filesystem-4-42.fc17.x86_64.rpm:
(28, '')
http://ftp.klid.dk/ftp/fedora/linux/updates/17/x86_64/kde-filesystem-4-42.fc17.x86_64.rpm:
[Errno 12] Timeout on
http://ftp.klid.dk/ftp/fedora/linux/updates/17/x86_64/kde-filesystem-4-42.fc17.x86_64.rpm:
(28, '')
...

I can't to access to the web pages except sites like google...

Tomorrow, i change my modem to check it. Should i return on Windows... ? :)

--
M.B



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jim <binarynut@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:45:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ?
On 03/31/2013 10:55 PM, poma wrote:
On 01.04.2013 01:55, Jim wrote:
...
How can one convert MKV videos to MP2-4 ?
Is there a "MP2-4" video format. :)

poma


MP2 or MP4



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:49:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ?
Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/01/13 07:55, Jim wrote:
F18/Kde

How can one convert MKV videos to MP2-4 ?

What app will do it ?

GUI or command line?

Miro for GUI
ffmpeg for command line

I use....

/usr/bin/ffmpeg -i $1 -acodec aac -ab 96k -vcodec libx264 -preset slow -f mp4 -crf 22 -strict experimental $1.mp4

in a script

Wow, I see why you want it in a script. I confess to being lazy and just setting the output filename to {something}.webm and getting a pretty portable file. I adjust frame size and video bitrate as needed, generally defaults work.

I use "-target ntsc-dvd" a lot to get a file which will go on a DVD should I need it.

--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
  "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:53:33 +0200
Subject: Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ?


Am 01.04.2013 18:49, schrieb Bill Davidsen:
> Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 04/01/13 07:55, Jim wrote:
>>> F18/Kde
>>>
>>> How can one convert MKV videos to MP2-4 ?
>>>
>>> What app will do it ?
>>
>> GUI or command line?
>>
>> Miro for GUI
>> ffmpeg for command line
>>
>> I use....
>>
>> /usr/bin/ffmpeg -i $1 -acodec aac -ab 96k -vcodec libx264 -preset slow -f mp4 -crf 22 -strict experimental $1.mp4
>>
>> in a script
>>
> Wow, I see why you want it in a script. I confess to being lazy and just setting the output filename to
> {something}.webm and getting a pretty portable file

portable?

* Apple does not support it
* Microsoft does not support it
* many mobile devices does not support it
* most hardware-devices does not support it

don't get me wrong, i owuld love to have VP8 in the position H264
is, but since it's part of my daily job to write software which
supports most to all clients with videos that's not how the world
works for at least some years from now



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From: Marc Blanc <arsace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 19:06:23 +0200
Subject: Re: f18...
Le Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:26:06 +0200,
poma <pomidorabelisima@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :


>ThunderBrowse :)
>http://thunderbrowse.com/

Sorry, i can't access to this site :(((((

--
M.B



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From: Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@xxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 19:07:12 +0200
Subject: Re: f18...
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 06:33:10PM +0200, Marc Blanc wrote:
>
> I don't have any error messages. I can't to download nothing, only sometimes
> with yum. Actually i have reinstalled f17, same problem. To upgrade to f18
> yum stop at midterm like :
>
> kde-filesystem-4-42.fc17.x86_6 FAILED Timeout on
> http://ftp.klid.dk/ftp/fedora/linux/updates/17/x86_64/kde-filesystem-4-42.fc17.x86_64.rpm:
> (28, '')
> http://ftp.klid.dk/ftp/fedora/linux/updates/17/x86_64/kde-filesystem-4-42.fc17.x86_64.rpm:
> [Errno 12] Timeout on
> http://ftp.klid.dk/ftp/fedora/linux/updates/17/x86_64/kde-filesystem-4-42.fc17.x86_64.rpm:
> (28, '')
> ...
>
> I can't to access to the web pages except sites like google...
>
> Tomorrow, i change my modem to check it. Should i return on Windows... ? :)

Have you considered the possibility that the problem might be your ISP?

--
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jim <binarynut@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:08:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Fedora 18 won't print in Landscape mode.
In KDE.

Goto  /Menu/Administration /Printer Settings/Properties/Job options     # Job Options in left column,  and Orientation:in
                                        #   Landscape (90 degrees) and check box "Scale to fit"   and Apply. .



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx>
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:37:31 -0430
Subject: Re: f18...
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 19:06 +0200, Marc Blanc wrote:
> Le Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:26:06 +0200,
> poma <pomidorabelisima@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>
>
> >ThunderBrowse :)
> >http://thunderbrowse.com/
>
> Sorry, i can't access to this site :(((((

Time to start trying crazy ideas. Can you access 108.59.9.142? It's the
same site as above, but there may be something off with your DNS
settings. I've had situations where some apps work and others don't, due
to my /etc/resolv.conf being borked.

poc




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:18:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Converting MKV videos to MP2 -4 ?
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/01/13 07:55, Jim wrote:
F18/Kde

How can one convert MKV videos to MP2-4 ?

What app will do it ?

GUI or command line?

Miro for GUI
ffmpeg for command line

I use....

/usr/bin/ffmpeg -i $1 -acodec aac -ab 96k -vcodec libx264 -preset slow -f mp4
-crf 22 -strict experimental $1.mp4

in a script

Wow, I see why you want it in a script. I confess to being lazy and just setting
the output filename to {something}.webm and getting a pretty portable file. I
adjust frame size and video bitrate as needed, generally defaults work.

Hum, tried this with an old cell phone which didn't have the latest and greatest updates, the big long script works with old phones, and the ffmpeg idea of "webm" doesn't. On the other hand, the mp4 was more than double the size, so there are tradeoffs. I suspect the OP wants portability above all.
I use "-target ntsc-dvd" a lot to get a file which will go on a DVD should I
need it.



--
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the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot


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