On Fri, 2013-03-29 at 21:32 -0700, Rick Walker wrote: > "nrm -s" keeps a fine-grained horde of every deleted file - even > multiple deletes of the same file! The strategy works so well, that > I'd seriously propose the .gone strategy as a kernel option. Then all > "unlink" calls would use the same sequencing system even if the file > was removed by a program without "anyone typing anything". That's true as long as the damage was done via unlink. However a file being overwritten is another story. That's why regular backups are essential, as you say. > Backups are a highly recommended and mostly orthogonal safety > net. I agree that the two are orthogonal. My concern about nrm and similar tools is that they can instil a false sense of security in naive users. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but paranoia in a sysadmin is no bad thing. > The nrm approach also diverts lots of support requests from the > department backup guru, and lets most users fix their own problems > without any need for help. That depends somewhat on how restores are handled. On many systems the backup appears as a mounted read-only filesystem mirroring the live system, in which case restoring is as simple as the "cp .gone/..." example you give. That's how I do it at least. poc -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org