Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 24.02.2013 01:09, schrieb Frantisek Hanzlik: >> Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 23.02.2013 22:59, schrieb Dave Stevens: >>>> I've upgraded my Fedora from F9 to F14 with preupgrade and am now >>>> planning a new hard drive install and a fresh Fedora install >>> >>> and why in the world are you upragding only to F14? nobody here cares >>> about F14 because F17 is the latest supported release >> >> You must speak for oneself, Reindl > > no - having unsupported operating systems in production > and connected to the internet is plain stupid, you > can put your head in the sand and ignore it, but thats > the fact > >> I myself still run several F14 > > big mistake > >> so far I do not want upgrade them, simply for several reasons > > there is no one > >> they are quite stable, much more than F16+ ones (F15 was rather >> unusable, I almost avoid it). > > you must do something wrong > > had F15, F16 and now F17 in production > they are stable > >> - they works as I want, not as wind blows (yes, have you someone tried >> e.g. switch to runlevel 1 and then back to runlevel 5 (oops, >> rescue.target/graphical.target ;) > > what are you doing taht you nedd runlevel 1? > >> - they use stable pretty Gnome2 WM > > who needs GNOME? > >> - they act as LTSP (Linux Terminal Server Project) servers (which >> seems dead with F15+) > > well and why the hell do you use fedora > if you need RHEL/CentOS? > >> Of course, some drawback is that F14 isn't supported yet and I have >> package some important packages itself, but this isn't too big >> problem. > > ah and you package all of the security updates too? > >> And yes, if I had know 2 years back how will be next Fedora >> development take, then I should have at these boxes Centos or some >> *buntu distro (where is LTSP supported well). > > you have only two options > > * upgrade > * pull the network cable > >> As rather optimist, I hope F19 will be at least so good as F14 was > > F17/F18 are stable and working fine > F18 only if you upgrade from F17 because anaconda - these boxes aren't directly on internet. Even if they would be, they will not offers many services to internet and there isn't problem secure them. - it seems as my experience is different than Your, perhaps You are using other software than I. Anyway, You must address Your hints in this area to someone another's. Your extreme words aren't well-founded for me, sorry. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org