Lets be gratefull that NAT will be a thing of the past as soon as V6 will be used more generally. Just like accoustic coupled modems: once generally accepted and even state of the art, now something for a museum -:) ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: Tim [mailto:ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Verzonden: Thursday, February 21, 2013 05:52 PM W. Europe Standard Time Aan: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Onderwerp: Re: Odd Question, Wifi Tim: >> To a large degree, a Windows box is protected from the internet by >> NAT in the router, ... Dave Ihnat: > NAT is not a security protection. At best it's obfuscation. Yes, I know. Poor choice of words, on my behalf. It's somewhat buffered, in that NAT often gets in the way. But it's not meant to keep things out, so any expectation that it will, is bad thinking. I've even come across modem/routers that go out of their way to help outside connections come through their NAT to the other side. The idea being to make it easier for less savvy users to still be able to play games, do their VOIPing, etc. > And if someone comes into a LAN via it's WAP, they're on the _inside_, > so NAT doesn't apply, and they're behind the router border firewall > (if any). My point was, Windows users (who, typically, don't know much about what they're doing - let's face it, there's hundreds of thousands of non-technical users), have kind-of gotten used to being somewhat protected from outside disturbances by their modem/routers, unlike how their old modems offered no isolation, now have something behind that not very tangible barrier, as another easy way in. Firewalls made of rice paper... -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org ______________________________________________________________________ Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, word u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het electronisch verzenden van berichten. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
