On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 00:35 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 13:44 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 15:07 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 01/31/2013 12:52 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > > > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:55:08 +0000 > > > > Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Way way OT: > > > >> > > > >> Just out of interest, why do some people use the non-existent word > > > >> "i", not to mention other violations of capitalization rules when > > > >> 1) their Shift key is clearly not broken, > > > > Could be various reasons. > > > > It's a multi-cultural list. > > > > English as 2nd or 3rd language. > > > > users may not have a western-style keyboard. > > > > Maybe dyslexic (in rare case spell-check could complicate matters) > > > > > > I **AM** dyslexic and live and die by my speel ckecher. > > ---- > > my oldest brother is probably the smartest person I know - and he was > > dyslexic too. He is also a graduate chemical engineer, former union > > organizer, economics professor (masters degree) and it's obvious that > > while spelling and grammar checkers are a must for people with these > > problems, the truth is that it's about effective communication and I > > don't have much patience for those who want to insist on rules of > > communication rather than just appreciate the communication. > > If it were either/or, I would agree with you, but that's a straw man and > a false dichotomy. With the exception of dyslexics (who AFAIK tend to be > of above-average intelligence), it's not a question of either you > communicate effectively or you follow grammar rules. Grammar rules exist > in order to make communication more effective by reducing the amount of > cognitive dissonance. Reading is not done letter by letter or word by > word, but in larger units, and every time I see 'i' instead of 'I', it > interrupts my train of comprehension, even for a a few milliseconds. > What's good about that? ---- It's clear that you want this e-mail list, informal as it is to respect your sense of proper grammar. It won't and your diatribes won't change that but might scare people away. My wife (Chinese - been here 2 1/2 years) speaks better English than many Americans. Some people are lazy, sloppy and probably know better but just don't care. Some people are dyslexic. Some are merely adopting fast/informal methods of other communication methods. Some just simply struggle with English. There's no straw man argument... but - if it makes you happy, we can just declare the "Patrick O'Callaghan" rule by getting it added to the Fedora Users Mailing List Guidelines so you have a fully loaded weapon to attack with. Sheesh Reminds me of a book that I bought that looked interesting... "Eats Shoots & Leaves by Lynn Truss." It was about the need for things like punctuation to clarify the intent of something. In the end, the author includes a number of self adhesive commas, apostrophes, periods, semi-colons and colons so one can fix the world's signage guerrilla style. Yes, it's that absurd. It doesn't matter. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org