On 01/22/2013 01:52 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > but I must admit I'm having trouble keeping up. You're not alone there! And for me, since I'm still on Fedora 14, there's also GNOME 3! I will install F18 in the next couple of weeks. I've always used Fedora every 4 releases (that's a new version every 2 years roughly). That means I'll have updates for one year and the next year I'm on my own (thanks to the Remi repo and others I can extend that extra year). Anyhow, I mention this because indeed this is the VERY first time that I'm feeling like you (having a tough time trying to keep up). I've always used to read the "Release Notes" of all the 3 releases I missed plus the new one I'm about to install and I could keep up. This time I'm facing ALL the new changes you mentioned and, since I'm already feeling overwhelmed, I decided to skip the learning of some new stuff for later: - I just learned I can disable firewalld and use my iptables scripts - I can install MATE and face GNOME 3 some time in the future That's the way I'll be dealing with all of this. In the end, if someone's a typical home user, who mainly use the web browser and doesn't care how things work behind the scenes, perhaps this won't bother him at all. I'm not like that. -- Jorge -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org