Is it possible that X somehow makes a file inaccessible not when it's running but only when it (X) is shown? Here's what happens: In a virtual console, $ cat /dev/snd/controlC0 [just to see if it's accessible] returns cat: /dev/snd/controlC0: File descriptor in bad state (in a VC) so the file is accessible - that's all that matters now. (Of course, it's not an ordinary file, and given its permissions: crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 5 Jan 20 02:34 /dev/snd/controlC0 and that the user I'm doing this as is not in the audio group, I find this result surprising - but since it's the one I want, I won't worry about it for now :-)) However, if I do $ sleep 10 ; cat /dev/snd/controlC0 and then switch to X (which has been running all the time), wait for more than 10 secs and switch back, I see cat: /dev/snd/controlC0: Permission denied (Meanwhile, the permissions are still crw-rw----+) It doesn't matter if X is just an X server, or a full xfce desktop. And lsof doesn't show anything that's using /dev/snd/controlC0 All this is interesting for me because I'm trying to find out the reason why sound works in a VC but not in X, and strace led me in this direction. I'd appreciate any insight or hints about this. Andras -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org