Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

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On 01/14/2013 11:47 PM, staticsafe wrote:
On 1/14/2013 23:02, g wrote:
On 01/15/2013 02:09 AM, staticsafe wrote:
"also, good luck with subfolders under inbox."

What exactly is the problem?
there is a known quirk with mozilla's thunderbird email client involving
an email account's Inbox that has sub-folders.

due to high email traffic that goes thru Inbox, there is a possibility
of the Inbox _email_file_ becoming corrupt.

OK, now I'm worried.

the cause of this happening can be for various reasons. the main cause,
i believe, is from auto compact being enabled and new emails arriving
when thunderbird is trying to do maintenance on file for emails that have
been moved elsewhere by filter action.
I don't think I enabled auto-compact manually, I don't know if its
enabled by default, time to find out I guess.

another problem that can happen and mozilla does recognize it, if you
keep a lot of old emails in Inbox, there is a possibility of file
becoming corrupt. mozilla recommends that Inbox be maintained with as
few emails as possible. i recommend to _keep_it_cleaned_-_period_.
This one I got covered, I maintain an "inbox zero" policy with all my
accounts, mails are filtered directly without ever seeing my "INBOX" folder.

there is a condition in the filter 'match' setting called

   ( ) Match all messages

which i use as last filter of each email account to move emails to
folder 'Local Folders/all-other'. i have considered adding sub-folders
to it, but my filtering is extensive enough that i seldom have any
emails hit 'all-other'.

in your case, you could add sub-folders with name of you email accounts.
that is up to you. what ever makes things simple to maintain is the
main goal.

there have been a number of posters on the 'support thunderbird list'
complaining about an account having a corrupted Inbox.

there have been many suggestions for a cure made. the one that works
is to move *all* Inbox sub-folders out from under Inbox folder. they
can be moved anywhere and i recommend they be moved to a place below
the 'Local Folders' folder. cure rate by doing so is 100%

there is/was a page on one of non mozilla owned mozilla support sites
that recommends no sub-folder and it gave same reasons i found to be.
i thought i had bookmarked site, but i have yet to find it. it does
not shown up with a google search.

so, now you know what i meant in wishing you good luck.

also, understand this, you may not have a problem now, your setup
could go on forever. then again, it might hit you.

consider what and how much you have to lose vs the short time spent
in dragging folders to a new location.

when you drag and drop folders to a new position, thunderbird's filter
routine will rewrite your filters to show new position so you do not
have to rewrite any filter rules.
This is the thing, I don't use Thunderbird's filter system at all. All
my filtering is done server side by a Dovecot plugin called Sieve as I
mentioned. This is useful as I use Thunderbird on multiple devices and
OSes and I don't have to bother to keep my filters in sync. Also I get
to write filters in my favourite editor which is great too. :)

So my situation is - Thunderbird doesn't see any "filtering", as far its
concerned, messages just randomly appear in folders. :)

I am not too worried about losing e-mails due to corruption as this is
essentially my mailing list e-mail and most if not all of them are
publicly archived. :)

now you can see, and i hope understand, why i did not want to reply to
your question in thread i started. if a fedora, or any other user ran
a search with "Subject: folders under Inbox", they would never find
what they were looking for.

there are enough answers to problems out there that are no where related
to "Subject:" line. i did not see advantage of adding another and hiding
a solution.

i do hope this helps you make decision to move folders.
___

congratulations for your choice of wording in "Subject:".

tho next time, i would recommend "ping: geleem". i have a filer for
that. (GBWG)
Noted. Thanks for your elaboration.

Opa. Metaxa.



So just to clarify for someone like me.....who has a three sub-folders under my GMail account running on TB. You're saying I should move those folders to the "Local Folder" on my computer and away from under the Inbox for GMail? I have filters set up in TB that send certain e-mail addresses to those folders.....will the filters still work when I move them? (I have folders for the Fedora Users Group....the CEntOS Users Group...and the Scientific Linux Users Group!) Just want to know before I go and move them....also these same folders are also existent on the GMail servers, will my moving the ones on TB affect those as well?...


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