Jim wrote: >> Alternatively, you could try using the network service instead: >> sudo systemctl start network.service > I don't want to use NetworkManager, have deleted it. ( Please don't > bring up NetworkManager any more, It is against my religion to even > talk about it) My Religion is A PISS OFF NETWORKMANAGER USER. > > I have eth0 ethernet working. > > Now I want to get the Wireless card working on this laptop. > But when I try to reboot to load Wireless , the Network won't start, it > FAILs . Why don't you try the network service, as I suggested above? It is not the same as NetworkManager. Before you do that you could try sudo iwlist scan to see if any access points are actually accessible. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org