Tim: >> Mine actually gets used as a tool, fiddling around with it is the >> last thing I want to do. It wastes my time having to tweak things to >> get them to do what I want them to. Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. sent: > I on the other hand am curious to see the inner-workings of some of > the apps on my Fedora 17 laptop. ...but I also don't want to have to > change or edit something every time I need to get something done....si > I guess there's a sweet spot / middle ground that some folks can fit > into. I'm past the "point-and-click" phase of computing, and am going > to want to constantly learn how to do things, but I'm also no > programmer-level, super-computing, genius who can do all things with a > few lines of code..... Oh, I'll try out new and interesting sounding software, learn how to set up a new service, et cetera. But what I don't want to do is continually fiddle with the desktop, itself, nor have to learn new ways to do the same thing, over and over again (whether that be NFS requiring a new configuration methodology to do exactly what it was doing in the prior release, or what new hoops have to be jumped through to get the damn nvidia card to work on the same hardware). I see people who seem to do nothing other than continually change the background and menus of their desktop in new and useless ways. Yes, that is a dig at the Gnome developers, as well as fiddle-finger-users. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.6.9-2.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Dec 4 13:26:04 UTC 2012 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org