On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 04:45:45PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > WTF - systemd was introduced in F15 Not true. It was on by default, but introduced in F14 -- or possibly even F13. It was proposed as a default for F14 but it wasn't mature enough. > F14/F15 are EOL and NOT suitable for production Now, this is true -- although it's worth noting that this doesn't necessarily match the practical reality of what people do. Hopefully the new upgrade process will, once it all shakes out, make this easier for people. -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org