On 27.10.2012, Ian Chapman wrote: > I have a home server which runs F17 and for a long time now it just doesn't > reboot or shutdown cleanly. I've had the same issue since it was running F16 > and possibly F15. When the server shuts down, I get spurious messages about > some services failing or a dependency was not met for the shutdown target, > or sometimes a black screen with a line which just says "Adding Swap target" > (really, on a shutdown?). I have encountered similar problems with systemd, see e.g. here for the latest one which is present a long time: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=857406 Neither Fedora nor sysyemd-people really care, so expect to be on your own. > How do I about starting to diagnose these problems with > systemd? http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging#Diagnosing_Shutdown_Problems > Given that the system is left in a state where I can't do anything > with it. The usual places such as /var/log/messages doesn't turn up anything > useful. Maybe because syslog has already been stopped by then. Do the diagnostics from the link above and open a bugreport. Maybe you are more lucky than I have been. In the meantime, I switched all my machines to Archlinux, there's just one Fedora machine left (which will go soon). Most of the showstoppers were systemd ones, where the developers/maintainers didn't care. "Didn't care" translates in my case *not* to "they do not provide the help and fixes I'm expecting" (it's free software, after all). It translates to "I don't even get an answer"", despite that I offered full support to debug the case. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org