On 10/22/12 09:52, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Monday, 22. October 2012. 11.25.04 Ian Malone wrote: >> On 22 October 2012 11:18, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Tim: >>>>> Discouraged by who? It's supposedly *the* answer to email >>> >>> Ed Greshko: >>>> UFT-7 isn't widely used.... But if you want to use it go ahead. >>> >>> You said it's discouraged. I've never seen any such comment. Where do >>> you find that advice? >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-7#cite_note-0 >> http://www.imc.org/imcr-010.html >> "It should be noted that the Unicode Standard also defines the UTF-7 >> charset, which was intended for Internet mail. However, MIME is quite >> capable of carrying UTF-8, and UTF-8 is expected to be used in many >> protocols, not just Internet mail. Fortunately, very few vendors >> implemented UTF-7, and its use is strongly discouraged in Internet >> mail." >> >> Essentially it was never a great solution to the problem it was >> supposed to address (didn't really beat existing methods, UTF-8 in >> MIME generally turned out to be better). Still, whatever reader Marko >> is using should be able to handle it, if it is GMail then it's a bug >> in that. > > I am using KMail (version 4.8.5 that seems to be current for F16). My gmail > account is used only to transport mail, I almost never use gmail's web > interface (it's just awful...). :-) > > I looked around in the "set encoding" menu in KMail, but UTF-7 was not offered > as a choice. UTF-8 and UTF-16 were, along with a whole bunch of others, but > UTF-7 does not appear to be supported. > > Maybe it's a bug, maybe it was ignored on purpose, maybe the devs just forgot > about supporting a deprecated encoding system... Couldn't find out, google > didn't find any relevant bug reports AFAICT. > > But it doesn't matter much anyway. The bigger problem is the mailing list > archives, as Ed pointed out. If I look at Tim's original post on the archives, > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-October/425826.html > > one can see that the encoding isn't right. However, I can see that Firefox > also does not offer UTF-7 as an encoding choice (and I bet none of the modern > web browsers do), so anyone watching the archives will have trouble > understanding Tim's e-mail... > > Best, :-) > Marko > > It's interesting because in ThunderBird 16.0.1 on Fedora Rawhide an email that Tim sent thru shows this in his comments: In the /etc/default/grub file, I added this line: GRUB+AF8-GFXMODE+AD0-800x600 Then ran the +ACI-grub2-mkconfig+ACI command to regenerate the config file used While the response to Tim's email (including the lines above) show them displayed as: In the /etc/default/grub file, I added this line: GRUB_GFXMODE=800x600 Then ran the "grub2-mkconfig" command to regenerate the config file used at boot time. Which is the correct way for it to be displayed. So it doesn't look like Thunderbird 16.0.1 likes UTF-7 anymore than some other clients. I missed what the point of setting UTF-7 was in the first place but it seems to break more than it fixes. Kevin -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
