On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 17:33 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > you can either argue that the list server software needs to be "fixed" > or "configured" to do the transformation so you can continue to use > your UTF-7..... Or you can be a "good citizen" and use UTF-8....at > least until the problem that you're going to bugzilla is fixed. I would argue that HTML archives need to transcode incoming text into what ever the website servers the archives out, or that each archived email in a page needs to be served with the appropriate headers for the content that it's serving. The former would be the easiest, particularly as all page content needs to be the same (message, and all the frippery around it that makes an email in an webpage with links, and things). It is wrong to serve webpages that are supposedly encoded in one scheme, but actually in another. If the complaint is about users wanting to text scrape their own mail spools, then they need to use tools which scrape the data in the encoding that it actually is stored in. Either a multi-encoding-capable tool is required (since mail can come in any form), or the local mail needs to be written to the scheme the user wants to use. Personally I have no great desire to have to use UTF-7, it was just picked as a choice that was supposed to be a good one. Since this has become a debacle, I've changed it. But they should all "just work" in modern clients, though they will fail when users start forcing an encoding type in their reader, regardless of actual content type. The actual source code behind them shouldn't be a problem. By the way, in this thread, see a series of messages by Ed Greshko, but with quotes from Reindl Harald that don't seem to be on the list. Yet there's, semi-obviously, been a discussion. Is this private replies being made public, or another of those strange list moderations? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.6.2-4.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 17 02:43:21 UTC 2012 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org