Bob Goodwin: +AD4 I was afraid that's what it meant and that explains some of the odd +AD4 results I've been seeing when changing my dns settings. It also means +AD4 that I am not getting the services I paid Opendns for which raises a +AD4 question of ethics. Should Opendns have known that a particular ISP +AD4 operates this way? Wildblue/Viasat is a major ISP+ACE I can't see any DNS service being able to keep track of the hundreds, or thousands, of ISPs around, to know what they're up to. Sure, if they're informed of known ISPs, they could forewarn customers about problems. But that would depend on some automatic system being created, and they'd have separately ask what ISP you use, or presume what your ISP is based on your email address (which don't have to be related). I'd enquire of your ISP if there's a way around their proxying. Perhaps they have per-user preferences, some ISPs do (different network settings for certain classes of users, or users have a control panel to adjust some features, for themselves). +AD4 Which leaves wondering if there's a Linux solution available for my +AD4 non-VPN system? The only other way I could see of circumventing this, by yourself, would be if you had an external DNS server that could be queried on non-standard ports. Your ISP is, probably, only proxying requests over the usual DNS server ports. Yes, it's a major pain when you have a limited choice of ISPs. We're lucky to have choices where I am. But for a long time, it was often a choice of ludicrously expensive ISPs (that weren't always that good), versus various little ISPs (which were often over sold - too many customers, not enough incoming lines or bandwidth). Now, we tend to have quite a few reasonable ones to choose from. I suppose I should ask why you want to use alternative DNS servers. Are your ISP's not good enough/censoring/filtering? I started running my own DNS servers due to having two or three ISPs, in a row, with awfully slow DNS servers. One of them, which is the main backbone for the whole country, couldn't even get their own DNS records to stay working for their own news server. I always had to put its IP in my hosts file. -- +AFs-tim+AEA-localhost +AH4AXQAk uname -rsvp Linux 3.6.2-4.fc17.x86+AF8-64 +ACM-1 SMP Wed Oct 17 02:43:21 UTC 2012 x86+AF8-64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists.
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