> The question I have is, can the buyer simply choose NOT to > use uefi (i.e. blow it off the system) and boot any OS of choice > which will not insist on the presence of any UEFI? No. > I think the answer to this question is more important as it provides > an "opt-out" choice to the consumer. There are two things here UEFI is a replacement for the BIOS and in fact quite a few modern systems are UEFI but boot into a "BIOS" compatiblity by default. 'Secure' boot is the signed booting stuff. That is an add on to basic EFI and on x86 it's required by Microsoft as part of their requirements that it must be disableable but that disabling it must be done in a secure ("proof of presence" - ie local) manner. It's also possible in theory to replace/amend the keys although thats a bit more complicated. The Linux Foundation have been working on tools for this. On ARM systems the requirement is the reverse - it must not be possible to disable it, so those devices will be locked to Windows if shipped that way. In theory there is nothing stopping a vendor shipping a system with UEFI without secure boot, or with UEFI and with secure boot disabled as supplied or with other keys. I cam imagine for example that folks like Dell would get asked to ship big blocks of machines to corporates that alos have an extra company key in them. That makes things like securely provisioning via PXE much simpler. Alan -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org