Michael Schwendt responded >> Seems you're missing the grub2-tools package for some useful tools, >> such as grub2-install and grub2-mkconfig. >Oh, wait, with Fedora 16 the tools are in the main "grub2" package, >so you just need to read up on how to use them. I have done some reading on both grub2-install , grub2-mkconfig what I was trying to do was just a bit of exploring grub2 with a "grub command line interface" (I may not have the nomenclature correct) as in f14 grub1 just entering "grub" and a carriage return spits back "grub >" which I cannot do in my f16. with either "grub" or "grub2" Is this just not possible with grub2? Or perhaps intended only for rescue tools such as a knoppix live cd? Jack -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org