Joe Zeff responded: >Just to be clear. After you select your username, you get prompted for your password. At >the bottom left of that window, there should be a drop-down box labeled Session, that >defaults to whatever DE you used the last time you logged in this way. If it says GNOME, >change it to XFCE before typing your password. Then, it should default to Xfce until and >unless you change it. >>However booting now does not start X: >>the system just hangs with a black screen, blinking dash. >>I can then get X via going to console,Ctrl-alt-F2, >>which gives me a sign in prompt, >> signing in as byers, and running startx. >If you want to be sure you're using Xfce, try using startxfce4 instead. Joe, thanks for that "startxfce4", it completely changed what i was getting for the graphical display, now clearly in XFCE. So that is a big advance for me. I am still stuck on the reboot forcing me to go to console and "startxfce4". The boot process looks really barren, with a single blue-white bar with "fedora 16" in blue at far right, at the bottom of a black screen. Possibly this problem caused by cruft from the preupgrade, run from f14, which itself is a preupgrade from f12. Or, I did something weird during the preupgrade. Jack -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org