Re: SELinux on Fedora 17 - troubles, troubles, troubles, ...

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On 19.07.2012 15:41, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> On 07/19/2012 05:24 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
> > Why is using of SELinux on Fedora (I don't have experience with other
> > distros) so painful from a regular user perspective?
>
> > I'm talking about situation in which after installing stock packages
> and
> > "just running" applications I'm spending more time with SELInux Alert
> > Browser than any other system management utility.
>
> > You'd probably say that it's my fault, that I messed up with selinux
> > settings (yes, I confess, I've enabled samba sharing on some of my
> > directories under home but I've done this based on official Wiki) but
> > actually I only followed instructions from alert browser. I've applied
> > custom policies for one or two files that I then removed after one
> or two
> > hours.
>
> > I think that right now my system is as secure as with selinux disabled
> > because of all that modification that I've made. I'm not an idiot but I
> > really can't track all security policies that are active in my desktop
> > system used for daily work.
>
> > Do I really need to became security expert specialized in SELInux to
> use my
> > system? I started reading about selinux design and configuration but I
> > think it's a waste of time. My current selinux problem is caused by
> > systemd-tmpfiles trying to cleanup my /tmp dir where I copied some
> files
> > from home directory to play with and ... left them for automatic
> cleanup.
> > Solution is obvious - remove files form /tmp manually but then
> autoremover
> > mechanism provided by Fedora is redundant.
>
> > Is there a chance that someday users will use selinux without even
> noticing
> > it's installed?
>
>
> > Mateusz Marzantowicz
>
>
>
> Well you are complaining about two different problems, lets address them
> separately.  Setting up samba with SELinux can be daunting, since
> SELinux does
> not just allow samba servers to share all content on the system out of the
> box.  You have to tell SELinux what you want to change.
>
> Did you look at the man samba_selinux?  We now have over 400 man pages to
> explain how SELinux interacts with different applications on a RHEL box.
>
> You also might want to read
>
> http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/30837.html
>
> which might help you understand SELinux a little better.
>
> As far as the /tmp problem with systemd-tmpfiles, this is a bug in the
> policy
> that we are investigating.  Basically what is happening is we removed
> something that caused a random leftover content in /tmp to become
> invalid and
> the systemd-tmpfiles is not allowed to look at the content or delete
> it.  It
> is probably just best if you delete the content and then SELinux will stop
> complaining about it.
>
> ls -lZ /tmp/pulse-* -d
> drwx------. gdm    gdm    system_u:object_r:xdm_tmp_t:s0  
> /tmp/pulse-51xb22O5vXMk
> drwx------. dwalsh dwalsh staff_u:object_r:user_tmp_t:s0  
> /tmp/pulse-cvPtFlQSQRNj
>
>
> If one is unlabeled_t, then delete it.
>
> If you have any problems with SELinux please open a bugzilla or come to
> #selinux on freenode, there are people there to help you.
>
>
>
>

Thank you all for your answers and provided help on this subject.

I was able to successfully setup samba sharing using information from
Fedora Wiki, all is very clear and accurate there (at last for my case).
Sadly after some time I've been informed that some other policy problems
existed related to my setup but I resolved them quickly with alert
browser. Thanks anyway for more hints.

I have one more question: is there a method to reset selinux attributes
on file system objects to factory defaults, meaning the state after
fresh installation?


Mateusz Marzantowicz
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