Am 07.07.2012 14:19, schrieb Frank Murphy: > On 07/07/12 12:58, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: >> >> I think we are bigger enough to say no and buy only hardware compatible. >> > Not my first choice. > Been left with Old hardware as only option no thanks. who said that? there is a big enough market with customers which will make the pressure to the manufacturers to produce recent hardware where you can urn off secure boot do you really think vendors like HP would be stoopid enough to ignore their business customers? and yes the business machines have much better quality and are not too expensive or in many cases cheaper than the customer-crap most people buy http://www8.hp.com/de/de/products/desktops/product-detail.html?oid=5037949 a year ago with the SPECS below: 1600 € it is the choice of the customer buy cheapest crap and pray your OS will run fine or buy good hardware and that will not change these days you can have this machine even with a HP branded debian setup pre-installed ______________________ * Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz * 16 GB RAM * 2x4 TB Disk 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b4) 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev b4) 00:1c.6 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 7 (rev b4) 00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 8 (rev b4) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev a4) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Q67 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 04) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 04) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04) 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection 02:00.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 03) 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5008 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01
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