On 06/18/2012 06:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 18.06.2012 19:00, schrieb Andrew Haley: >> Fedora already did. No-one is saying that your complaints are not >> justified, just that they're in the wrong place. Fedora will continue >> to provide alternatives to GNOME for people who don't like it. In >> other words, The only thing that Fedora can do about GNOME 3 is >> already being done. > > WTF - there is much more that can be done > > * tell them that feodra is unhappy with upstream > * explain them why So do that, then. > * explain them that if the issues are not solved GNOME is no longer default But there is not agreement among all Fedora developers about which way to go, and nor is there likely to be. Fedora is all about freedom and choice. >> In a way it's a shame that there has to be a default, but a new user >> won't be able sensibly to answer the "GNOME, KDE, XFCE?" question > > 1. this is untrue - show them a screenshot and short description For small values of "sensible". I can just imagine the arguments about how to describe GNOME 3. I'm not sure that "a steaming pile of foetid dingo's kidneys", as some people would describe GNOME 3, would do it. :-) > 2. if you really need a default take a sane one and not GNOME3 See above: there is not agreement among all Fedora developers. Look, if you found a bug in GCC and complained here we'd tell you to forward the report to GCC developers. How is GNOME any different? Andrew. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org