On 06/05/2012 09:58 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Yes, that was really my point. I wasn't sure if this route (through System > Settings) was provided by NM or KNM. As far as I can see, one gets exactly the same > information this way as if one right-clicks on what I think of as the NM icon in > the system tray. So it is not clear to me what KNM adds to the meal. Oh, of course the big difference between what is in "System Settings" and what is in the "System Tray" is that the "System Tray" has the bits which allow you to up/down the interfaces. What is in "System Settings" and "System Tray" are both considered to be part of KNM. They are both interfaces to NM but are both KDE specific and written using Qt (KDEish) as opposed to GTK+ (GNOMEiish) >> I really don't have any problems using "Network Manager". I found it >> "mostly" simple >> to setup an openVPN connection. Still have to write a bugzilla about how >> it "should" >> restrict where you put certs. But, without knowing the specifics about >> problems people encounter....it is hard to comment. > > As far as I can see, the old network service > has got mixed up with NM in some way, > and is no longer a genuine alternative? I don't really desire to start another thread that debates and speculates on why certain paths were taken. But, you certainly don't have to use NetworkManager if you don't want to....at least in F16 (I've not played with F17). There isn't an option to not use it on install....like there is LVM. But, you could switch after install. I think it has been talked about recently. I've not had any "failures" in anything NetworkManager related recently. But, when you do be sure to bring it up. :-) -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
