Tim: > On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 23:14 +0200, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> I really don't know why a regular desktop user >> is forced to have such infrastructure installed and operational out of >> the box only to allow some poorly designed programs to pass messages >> to >> the user. I think it's one of that old UNIX approaches that need to be >> revised and changed to better suite desktop Linux users. > What? One that works well, needs replacing with something new, to bring > about a new set of problems? Only because something works well, doesn't mean it is the best choice for everyone and forever. It always could have been better. > What alternative do you think would be better to pass log messages onto > the user(s)? It has to be something that works when the user isn't > currently logged on, as well as when they're on. Keeps the messages > until the user goes to look for them. I can not responsibly propose any alternative right now and it seems it is not the topic of this e-mail. I assure you there are already better alternatives for desktop and minimal installations to exchange diagnostic messages than having a full blown mail server installed. Simplicity is divine. > > Using email is quite convenient for all those purposes, and makes it > very easy to forward messages onto someone else, should you need a > second set of eyes to check something out. > How often a regular desktop or mobile Linux user checks that e-mails thrown in root's mailbox somewhere in the system? I read logs regularly on my servers, sometimes on my desktops but I hardly ever read root's mailbox on my desktop and I don't think I'm alone. I do not even bother to configure my GUI mail client to do this. I really have nothing against passing diagnostic messages over mail infrastructure but I don't think it is the best approach for all Linux users today. It should be more like an option to choose not enforcement. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
